Kathy Swarts (left) and Susan Noles on ‘The Golden Bachelor’.Photo:Ricky Middlesworth/ABCThe Golden Bachelor’sSusan NolesandKathy Swartsare holding nothing back as they spill some behind-the-scenes tea, including one near fashion disaster and who made it a ritual to skinny-dip atThe Bachelor mansion.On the latest episode ofThe Ben and Ashley I. Almost Famous Podcast, Kathy, 70, revealed that she nearly wore the same dress asGerry Turner’sfiancéeTheresa Nist— who she memorably told to“zip it”during a fight — to the live finale of the ABC dating show.“I went shopping for a dress for tonight,” she told hostAshley Iaconetti, referring to the special. “You’re not going to believe this.”Susan chimed in: “She sent me the pictures, everything. I can prove this is true.”Theresa Nist and Gerry Turner on ‘The Golden Bachelor’.Disney/John Fleenor“The dress was the dress Theresa had on tonight,” Kathy added, referring to Theresa’s long-sleeved white mini dress. “Can you imagine if I had shown up in that dress? [People would have said] she stalked her.”When asked how she learned she would be twinning Theresa on her big night, Kathy shared, “No one told me. I decided not to wear it because I thought, you know, she’s probably going to get engaged. It’s like white [and] bridal.”“You didn’t think of her. You liked the other one better. Tell the truth,” Susan clarified. “It was nothing to do with Theresa, we had no idea.”Kathy realized she had avoided an awkward moment when Theresa walked out on stage. “I go, ‘Oh my god. She’s got on my dress,'" she recalled. “And I thought, can you imagine Bachelor Nation that would have said, ‘Not only does she tell her to zip it but she goes out and buys her dress.’”Theresa Nist and Kathy Swarts on ‘The Golden Bachelor’.Ricky Middlesworth/ABC (2)Later in the episode, Susan revealed her unique morning ritual while filmingThe Golden Bachelor,saying, “I’m the first one up in the morning, skinny-dipping, making the girls crazy.”“Trust me,” Kathy added. “I’ve seen it all, every square inch, and she literally skinny-dipped in that pool every morning.”Susan remembered seeing the shocked reaction on “the faces of these ladies,” adding, “Everybody wasn’t up but we’re out having coffee and I go to the edge of the pool, slip it off and…”Kathy chimed in: “Slip it in.”The women of ‘The Golden Bachelor’.ABC/Craig SjodinSusan said the ladies wanted to make sure she knew producers could be filming and recalled, “They would be like, ‘Susan, there are cameras.’ I go, ‘Nobody’s here.’"“Also, they’re not going to be able to air it but they could black box you,” Ashley added.“Oh, whatever. Who wants to see a 66-year-old?” Susan concluded.Never miss a story — sign up forPEOPLE’s free daily newsletterto stay up-to-date on the best of what PEOPLE has to offer, from juicy celebrity news to compelling human interest stories.The Golden Bachelorcan be streamed on Hulu andThe Golden Weddingwill air Jan. 4, 2024 on ABC.
Kathy Swarts (left) and Susan Noles on ‘The Golden Bachelor’.Photo:Ricky Middlesworth/ABC

Ricky Middlesworth/ABC
The Golden Bachelor’sSusan NolesandKathy Swartsare holding nothing back as they spill some behind-the-scenes tea, including one near fashion disaster and who made it a ritual to skinny-dip atThe Bachelor mansion.On the latest episode ofThe Ben and Ashley I. Almost Famous Podcast, Kathy, 70, revealed that she nearly wore the same dress asGerry Turner’sfiancéeTheresa Nist— who she memorably told to“zip it”during a fight — to the live finale of the ABC dating show.“I went shopping for a dress for tonight,” she told hostAshley Iaconetti, referring to the special. “You’re not going to believe this.”Susan chimed in: “She sent me the pictures, everything. I can prove this is true.”Theresa Nist and Gerry Turner on ‘The Golden Bachelor’.Disney/John Fleenor“The dress was the dress Theresa had on tonight,” Kathy added, referring to Theresa’s long-sleeved white mini dress. “Can you imagine if I had shown up in that dress? [People would have said] she stalked her.”When asked how she learned she would be twinning Theresa on her big night, Kathy shared, “No one told me. I decided not to wear it because I thought, you know, she’s probably going to get engaged. It’s like white [and] bridal.”“You didn’t think of her. You liked the other one better. Tell the truth,” Susan clarified. “It was nothing to do with Theresa, we had no idea.”Kathy realized she had avoided an awkward moment when Theresa walked out on stage. “I go, ‘Oh my god. She’s got on my dress,'” she recalled. “And I thought, can you imagine Bachelor Nation that would have said, ‘Not only does she tell her to zip it but she goes out and buys her dress.’”Theresa Nist and Kathy Swarts on ‘The Golden Bachelor’.Ricky Middlesworth/ABC (2)Later in the episode, Susan revealed her unique morning ritual while filmingThe Golden Bachelor,saying, “I’m the first one up in the morning, skinny-dipping, making the girls crazy.”“Trust me,” Kathy added. “I’ve seen it all, every square inch, and she literally skinny-dipped in that pool every morning.”Susan remembered seeing the shocked reaction on “the faces of these ladies,” adding, “Everybody wasn’t up but we’re out having coffee and I go to the edge of the pool, slip it off and…”Kathy chimed in: “Slip it in.”The women of ‘The Golden Bachelor’.ABC/Craig SjodinSusan said the ladies wanted to make sure she knew producers could be filming and recalled, “They would be like, ‘Susan, there are cameras.’ I go, ‘Nobody’s here.’"“Also, they’re not going to be able to air it but they could black box you,” Ashley added.“Oh, whatever. Who wants to see a 66-year-old?” Susan concluded.Never miss a story — sign up forPEOPLE’s free daily newsletterto stay up-to-date on the best of what PEOPLE has to offer, from juicy celebrity news to compelling human interest stories.The Golden Bachelorcan be streamed on Hulu andThe Golden Weddingwill air Jan. 4, 2024 on ABC.
The Golden Bachelor’sSusan NolesandKathy Swartsare holding nothing back as they spill some behind-the-scenes tea, including one near fashion disaster and who made it a ritual to skinny-dip atThe Bachelor mansion.
On the latest episode ofThe Ben and Ashley I. Almost Famous Podcast, Kathy, 70, revealed that she nearly wore the same dress asGerry Turner’sfiancéeTheresa Nist— who she memorably told to“zip it”during a fight — to the live finale of the ABC dating show.
“I went shopping for a dress for tonight,” she told hostAshley Iaconetti, referring to the special. “You’re not going to believe this.”
Susan chimed in: “She sent me the pictures, everything. I can prove this is true.”
Theresa Nist and Gerry Turner on ‘The Golden Bachelor’.Disney/John Fleenor

Disney/John Fleenor
“The dress was the dress Theresa had on tonight,” Kathy added, referring to Theresa’s long-sleeved white mini dress. “Can you imagine if I had shown up in that dress? [People would have said] she stalked her.”
When asked how she learned she would be twinning Theresa on her big night, Kathy shared, “No one told me. I decided not to wear it because I thought, you know, she’s probably going to get engaged. It’s like white [and] bridal.”
“You didn’t think of her. You liked the other one better. Tell the truth,” Susan clarified. “It was nothing to do with Theresa, we had no idea.”
Kathy realized she had avoided an awkward moment when Theresa walked out on stage. “I go, ‘Oh my god. She’s got on my dress,'” she recalled. “And I thought, can you imagine Bachelor Nation that would have said, ‘Not only does she tell her to zip it but she goes out and buys her dress.’”
Theresa Nist and Kathy Swarts on ‘The Golden Bachelor’.Ricky Middlesworth/ABC (2)

Ricky Middlesworth/ABC (2)
Later in the episode, Susan revealed her unique morning ritual while filmingThe Golden Bachelor,saying, “I’m the first one up in the morning, skinny-dipping, making the girls crazy.”
“Trust me,” Kathy added. “I’ve seen it all, every square inch, and she literally skinny-dipped in that pool every morning.”
Susan remembered seeing the shocked reaction on “the faces of these ladies,” adding, “Everybody wasn’t up but we’re out having coffee and I go to the edge of the pool, slip it off and…”
Kathy chimed in: “Slip it in.”
The women of ‘The Golden Bachelor’.ABC/Craig Sjodin

ABC/Craig Sjodin
Susan said the ladies wanted to make sure she knew producers could be filming and recalled, “They would be like, ‘Susan, there are cameras.’ I go, ‘Nobody’s here.’”
“Also, they’re not going to be able to air it but they could black box you,” Ashley added.
“Oh, whatever. Who wants to see a 66-year-old?” Susan concluded.
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